Jordan Peterson Visibly Scared by Peter Thiel’s Worst Fear

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Perhaps if you have ideas that are taboo
that you're not allowed to discuss, my
shortcut is to suspect they're simply
correct.
>> Here's Peter Teal talking to Jordan
Peterson. This is a couple months ago
about the political correctness around
what we are allowed to talk about and
not allowed to talk about because
clearly they don't want Nick Shirley
talking about a certain something. And
then there's probably always a political
intuition I have on this too, which is
uh that perhaps if you have ideas that
are taboo that you're not allowed to
discuss, my shortcut is to suspect
they're simply correct. And uh and so uh
the the example I always give is uh is
um professor Bob Laughlin who's a
Stanford physics professor. I think
around 1998 he gets a Nobel Prize in
physics and he suffers from the extreme
delusion that now that he has a Nobel
Prize he finally has academic freedom
and can talk about whatever he would
like to talk about and there are all
sorts of areas that are very taboo in
the sciences. So you I mean question
Darwinism or question stem cell research
or uh question you know uh climate
change these are very dangerous areas
but he picked one of those even more
dangerous than any of those three. He
believed that most of the scientists,
so-called scientists were basically
stealing money from the government,
engaging in borderline fraudulent
science or or was it was incrementalist,
not worth much. You know, his area of
special
>> uh his his area of focus was high
temperature superc conductivity.
>> You know, he told me at one point there
were maybe 50,000 papers written in that
area and maybe 25 out of 50,000 um had
actually advanced the science at all.
Mh. Mhm.
>> And um and you know I don't even need to
tell you how the and then you know he he
started by yeah it was not just the
abstract replication crisis. He started
by talking about naming people and you
know this person has stole money and
this person is is a fraud. And uh I mean
I don't even need to tell you how that
movie ended. He promptly got defunded.
His students couldn't get PhDs anymore.
And so and then my hermeneutic of
suspicion is if you have an idea like
stagnation in science which immediately
gets um gets you deplatformed that's an
idea we should take very seriously. So
that's a political intuition I have on
this.
>> So the point of what he's illustrating
there is that even those who you think
are going to get as close to the truth as possible
they often get taken out by the machine in some sense.
You have a noble winning scientist who starts
calling out fraudulent in in these
departments, mostly college departments,
doing all these scientific papers and
research and all these things. And then
he gets the boot because they're all
kind of in on it. And I think that maybe
explains what the modern Democrat party is more than
anything else. They're all
in on the money laundering to some
extent, which is how they get so
freaking rich. Now, by the way, this is
not something that is exclusive to them.
The Republicans have a version of it,
too. But when it comes to sort of the
holistic we are going to destroy the
United States and pilfer every last
piece and pull the copper out of
the wall as we're taking the place out,
the Democrats are all kind of in on it.
So you cannot call anything out. That's why
a guy like John Federman who is a
Democrat for some reason still when
he pokes them now, what are they doing?
They're trying to primary him even
though he's by far the most sane member
they have in the Senate.
they have in the Senate.

Vocabulary & Translations

Perhaps

Być może

if you have

jeśli masz

ideas

pomysły

that are

które są

taboo

tabu

that you're

których nie

not allowed

wolno

to discuss,

dyskutować,

moja

shortcut

skrót

is to suspect

to podejrzewać

they're simply

że są po prostu

correct.

poprawne.

Here's

Oto

Peter Teal

talking to

rozmawiający z

Jordan

Jordanem

Peterson.

Petersonem.

This is

To jest

a couple

kilka

months ago

miesięcy temu

about

the political

politycznej

correctness

poprawności

around

wokół

what we are

tego, co

allowed

wolno

to talk about

mówić o

and

not allowed

nie wolno

to talk about

mówić o

because

ponieważ

clearly

wyraźnie

they don't want

nie chcą

Nick Shirley

talking about

mówiący o

a certain

pewnej

something.

rzeczy.

And

then there's

wtedy jest

probably always

prawdopodobnie zawsze

a political

polityczna

intuition

intuicja

I have

mam

on this too,

w tej kwestii też,

which is

która jest

that perhaps

że być może

if you have

jeśli masz

ideas

pomysły

that

które

are taboo

są tabu

that you're

których nie

not allowed

wolno

discuss,

dyskutować,

my shortcut

mój skrót

is to suspect

to podejrzewać

they're simply

że są po prostu

correct.

poprawne.

And uh

I uh

and so uh

i tak uh

the the example

przykład

I always give

zawsze podaję

is uh is

to uh jest

professor

profesor

Bob Laughlin

who's a

który jest

Stanford

physics professor.

profesorem fizyki.

I think

Myślę

around

około

1998

he gets

dostaje

a Nobel Prize

Nagrodę Nobla

physics

fizyce

and he suffers

i cierpi

from the extreme

z powodu skrajnego

delusion

urojenia

that now

że teraz

that he has

a Nobel

Nagrodę Nobla

Prize

he finally

w końcu

has academic

ma akademicką

freedom

wolność

and can talk

i może mówić

about whatever

o czymkolwiek

he would

chciałby

like to talk

mówić

about

and there are

i są

all

wszelkiego

sorts of areas

rodzaju obszary

that are very

które są bardzo

taboo

tabu

the sciences.

naukach.

So you

Więc

I mean

mam na myśli

question

kwestionować

Darwinism

darwinizm

or question

lub kwestionować

stem cell

komórki macierzyste

research

badania

or uh

lub uh

question you know

kwestionować, wiesz,

uh climate

uh klimat

change

zmiany

these are very

to są bardzo

dangerous areas

niebezpieczne obszary

but he picked

ale wybrał

one of those

jeden z tych

even more

jeszcze bardziej

dangerous

niebezpieczny

than any

niż którykolwiek

of those three.

z tych trzech.

believed

wierzył

that most

że większość

of the scientists,

naukowców,

so-called

tak zwanych

scientists

naukowców

were basically

byli zasadniczo

stealing money

kradnący pieniądze

from the government,

od rządu,

engaging in

angażujący się w

borderline

graniczne

fraudulent

oszukańcze

science

nauki

or or was it

lub czy to było

was incrementalist,

było inkrementalistyczne,

not worth much.

niewiele warte.

You know,

Wiesz,

his area of

jego obszar

special

specjalności

uh his his area

uh jego obszar

of focus

zainteresowania

was high

była wysoka

temperature

temperaturowa

superc conductivity.

nadprzewodnictwo.

You know,

Wiesz,

he told me

powiedział mi

at one point

w pewnym momencie

there

tam

were maybe

było może

50,000 papers

50 000 artykułów

written in that

napisanych w tej

area

dziedzinie

and maybe

i może

25 out of

25 z

50,000 um

50 000 um

had

miało

actually advanced

faktycznie posunęło

the science

naukę

at all.

w ogóle.

Mh.

Mhm.

And um

I um

and you know

i wiesz

I don't even

nawet nie

need to

muszę

tell you

ci mówić

how the

jak

and then you know

a potem wiesz

he he

started by

zaczął od

yeah it was

tak, to było

not just the

nie tylko

abstract

abstrakcyjny

replication crisis.

kryzys replikacji.

He started

Zaczął

by talking about

od mówienia o

naming people

wymieniania ludzi

and you

know

wiesz

this person

ta osoba

has stole money

ukradła pieniądze

and

this person

ta osoba

is is a fraud.

jest oszustem.

And uh

I uh

I mean

mam na myśli

I don't even

nawet nie

need to tell you

muszę ci mówić

how that

jak ta

movie ended.

historia się skończyła.

He promptly

On natychmiast

got defunded.

został pozbawiony funduszy.

His students

Jego studenci

couldn't get

nie mogli dostać

PhDs anymore.

doktoratów.

And so

I tak

and then

a potem

my hermeneutic

moja hermeneutyka

suspicion

podejrzeń

is if you have

jest taka: jeśli masz

an idea like

pomysł taki jak

stagnation

stagnacja

in science

w nauce

which immediately

który natychmiast

gets um

zostaje um

gets you

zostajesz

deplatformed

usunięty z platformy

that's an

to jest

idea we should

pomysł, który powinniśmy

take very seriously.

traktować bardzo poważnie.

Więc

that's a

to jest

political intuition

polityczna intuicja

I have

mam

this.

tej kwestii.

So the point

Więc sedno

of what he's

tego, co on

illustrating

ilustruje

there is that

jest takie, że

even those

nawet ci

who you think

którzy, jak myślisz,

are going to get

mają dotrzeć

as close

tak blisko

to the truth

prawdy

as possible

jak to możliwe

they often

oni często

get taken out

zostają wyeliminowani

by the machine

przez maszynę

in some sense.

w pewnym sensie.

You have

Masz

a noble winning

laureata Nagrody Nobla

scientist

naukowca

who starts

który zaczyna

calling out

wzywać do porządku

fraudulent

oszukańcze

in in these

w tych

departments,

wydziałach,

mostly college

głównie uniwersyteckich

departments,

wydziałach,

doing all these

robiących wszystkie te

scientific papers

naukowe artykuły

and

research

badania

and all these

i wszystkie te

things.

rzeczy.

And then

A potem

he gets

dostaje

the boot

kopa

because they're

ponieważ są

all

wszyscy

kind of

jakby

in on it.

w to wmieszani.

And I think

I myślę

that maybe

że może

explains

wyjaśnia

what the modern

czym współczesna

Democrat party

Partia Demokratyczna

is more than

jest bardziej niż

anything else.

cokolwiek innego.

They're all

Oni wszyscy są

in on

wmieszani w

the money laundering

pranie pieniędzy

to some

do pewnego

extent,

stopnia,

which is how

co jest sposobem,

they get so

jak stają się tak

freaking rich.

cholernie bogaci.

Now, by the way,

Teraz, przy okazji,

this is

to nie jest

not something

coś

that is exclusive

co jest wyłączne

to them.

dla nich.

The Republicans

Republikanie

have a version

mają wersję

of it,

tego,

too.

też.

But when it comes

Ale jeśli chodzi

to sort of

o coś w rodzaju

the

holistic

holistycznego

we are going

zamierzamy

to destroy

zniszczyć

the

United States

Stany Zjednoczone

and pilfer

i ukraść

every last

każdy ostatni

piece

kawałek

and pull

i wyciągnąć

the copper

miedź

out of

the wall

ściany

as we're taking

gdy wynosimy

the place out,

to miejsce,

the Democrats

Demokraci

are all kind

są wszyscy jakby

of in on it.

w to wmieszani.

Więc

you cannot

nie możesz

call anything out.

niczego piętnować.

That's why

Dlatego

a guy like

taki facet jak

John Federman

who is a

który jest

Democrat

demokratą

for some reason

z jakiegoś powodu

still when

nadal, kiedy

he pokes them

ich krytykuje

now,

teraz,

what are they doing?

co oni robią?

They're trying

Próbują

to primary him

go przepchnąć w prawyborach

even

nawet

though he's

choć jest

by far

zdecydowanie

the most sane

najbardziej rozsądnym

member

członkiem

they have

jakiego mają

in the Senate.

w Senacie.

they have in the Senate.